Monday, April 9, 2012

Dan's Questions for Turretinfan: The Bible Teaches Libertarian Free Will Debate (Part 5 of 12)

Dan:  Thank you turretinfan.  Can you please define choose as it’s used in Deuteronomy 30

TF: The definition for choose as used in this context is to judge as preferable

Dan: OK.  And what do you base that definition on?

TF: He is declaring to them what the consequences of their actions are.

Dan: Let me stop you.  My question is do you have a source?

TF: No, I didn’t prepare a source in advance for this particular question.

Dan: Ok, thank you.  Do you think that given God’s decrees one and only one future is possible?

TF:  Only one future is possible in the sense that no other future can come about.

Dan: You list a bunch of passages about the hardening of hearts.  Did any of those passages say the people being hardened can’t obey?

TF: No.  There are other passages talking about men being unable to obey, but no.

Dan: Do you agree with Edwards notion that motives determine the will?

TF: Yes.  As I remember reading him, yes.  Hopefully your recollection and my recollection align.

Dan: Do you believe that we are able to choose otherwise?

TF: Choose otherwise than we actually choose?

Dan: That’s correct.

TF: In the sense that we have the physical charticteristics and spiritual charticteristics such that if we were inclined otherwise, we could pick otherwise, then yes.  If you mean instead that we can choose what we don’t choose that’s a contradiction in itself.

Dan: The dictum of if you wanted to, you could.  In that sense you can choose otherwise, but not absolutely?

TF: and part of the reason that it is not absolute is the fact that there is a logical necessity placed on that you can only choose one or the other. 

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