The
New Living Translation (the most popular English version of the bible) has
numerous translation errors that favor Calvinism and oppose standard Arminian
or Traditional Baptist interpretation of the texts. For example, Ephesians 4:30 in the ESV states
“And do not grieve the Holy Spirit
of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.” However the New Living Translation has “And do not bring sorrow to God’s Holy Spirit
by the way you live. Remember, he has identified you as his own, guaranteeing
that you will be saved on the day of redemption.” There's no basis in the Greek for the NLT's additions and it appears to be more of a commentary than a translation. The attached study documents these errors.
The New Living Translation and Calvinism
Tuesday, June 18, 2013
Tuesday, June 11, 2013
You Do Not Believe Because You Are Not of My Sheep
In John 10:26 Christ says “you do not believe because you
are not of my sheep”. A good friend of
mine said this was the clincher for him; the reason he became a Calvinist. Calvinist argue that Christ’s sheep are the
unconditionally elect and the reason some don’t believe is because they are not
unconditionally elect. But there’s good
reason to think this is not what the passage means. In this post I will argue that Christ's statement should be understood as providing reasons to know the Jews have rejected Him rather than stating reprobation causes unbelief.
John 10:24 says: Now it was the Feast of Dedication in
Jerusalem, and it was winter. And Jesus walked in the temple, in Solomon’s
porch. Then the Jews surrounded Him and said to Him, “How long do You keep us
in doubt? If You are the Christ, tell us plainly.”
About two months had passed since Christ’s Good Shepard discourse in John 10:1-19. Now the Jews try to trap Jesus by asking if He was the Christ. The NKJV translates “τὴν ψυχὴν ἡμῶν αἴρεις” as “keep us in doubt”. The ESV renders it: “keep us in suspense”. Literally the phrase is hold up our souls. As John Gill puts it:
About two months had passed since Christ’s Good Shepard discourse in John 10:1-19. Now the Jews try to trap Jesus by asking if He was the Christ. The NKJV translates “τὴν ψυχὴν ἡμῶν αἴρεις” as “keep us in doubt”. The ESV renders it: “keep us in suspense”. Literally the phrase is hold up our souls. As John Gill puts it:
and said unto him, how long dost thou make us doubt? or as the Vulgate Latin, Syriac, Persic, and Ethiopic versions literally render it, "how long dost thou take away our soul?" that is, deprive us of the knowledge of thee; Nonnus renders it, "wherefore dost thou steal away our minds with words?" so Jacob when he went away privately, without the knowledge of Laban, is said to steal away the heart of Laban, as it is in the Hebrew text, in Genesis 31:20. In like manner the Jews charge Christ with taking away their soul, or stealing away their heart, or hiding himself from them; not telling them plainly (see Gill on John 10:24)
Now perhaps this is overstated a bit, and the phrase is just a manor of speaking, but non-the-less, I think the point stands that the Jews statement was a bit sharp and accusatory. They are saying Christ is doing something wrong; hiding who He really is. The NKJV captures this sense well by “keep us in doubt”; in that the Jews were blaming their unbelief on Christ. παῤῥησίᾳ has been translated “plainly”, or “boldly” or “openly”. The idea is that Christ has been hiding who He is and He should clearly and confidently tell the truth about Himself.
Now let’s look at how Christ answers this charge: John 10:25 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father’s name, they bear witness of Me. 26 But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you. 27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
Twice Christ says He already explained this and twice He says they don't believe. The repetition seems to be for emphasis. The Jews are saying "speak boldly" and Christ is saying "I already did". He also cites the evidence backing up His assertion: the miracles He does in the Father's name. Not only has He already spoken boldly, but He has provided evidence. So He is not to blame for hiding the truth; they are to blame for not believing it.
But how does Christ back up His claim that they do not believe? They say Christ is holding them in suspense - but Christ says no, you have already rejected me by not believing. He says you do not believe because you are not of my sheep. For some reason the NIV drops the ek (of or among). Contrast the ESV's "you are not among my sheep" withe the NIV's "you are not my sheep". The ESV is clearly correct given the Greek is ek ton probaton. This point is bolstered by verse 16 "other sheep I have which are not of [ek] this fold". The ek makes it clear that the idea is not simply one of individual identity, but also identification with the group. So the idea in verse 26 is they were not among or with Christ's sheep. Anyone could see they were not following Christ.
The Jews are not in some neutral territory between accepting or rejecting Christ; no they have rejected Him in the face of bold claims and strong evidence. Their accusation that Christ is keeping them in suspense or making them doubt is false; they have rejected Christ's words and the Father's witness. Christ's sheep hear His voice and follow Him. The fact that the Jews don't follow Christ is evidence that they don't believe and they are not on neutral ground.
The gar translated "because" or sometimes "for" often is used to settle questions, provide evidence or explanatory material like when people say I know there's a fire because I see the smoke. For example, in Mark 14:70, when Peter is called out “Surely you are one of them; for you are a Galilean, and your speech shows it”, the "for you are a Galilean" is evidence the statement is correct, not an assertion of causality. See also (Matthew 2:20, 3:9, 4:18, 6:31-32, Romans 13:11, 14:10, 16:17-18, John 4:45, Luke 6:32, 1 Corinthians 9:10, Mark 2:15 and in many other places). And the contexts presses for this usage of gar, since Christ is denying and refuting the Jews accusation that He is making them doubt or holding them in suspense. No, they are lying about being in suspense; they have already rejected Christ, otherwise they would be among His sheep and following Him.
And we can see this understanding is better than thinking of Christ's sheep as the elect and all others as reprobate. First, if the passage is about reprobation, then Christ isn't answering the Jews. He's wouldn't be giving a reason why He is right in disagreeing the the Jews claim that Christ is making them doubt. Second, if sheep are the unconditionally elect, then it's not true the sheep are following Christ. They will eventually, but they are not currently. Before the elect convert they don't hear Christ's voice and follow Him and they are not among Christ's flock. Third, Christ's statements shame the Jews, but there is no shame in not being unconditionally chosen. Finally, Christ is inviting the Jews to believe, especially in verse 38 "but if I do, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, that you may know and believe that the Father is in Me, and I in Him." But nothing could slam the door in the Jews face greater than being told by God they are reprobate.
Now let's head off a possible objection to this interpretation. Suppose someone grants Christ is giving reasons to think the Jews are unbelievers, but continues pressing the causal relationship. After all, fire causes smoke so the reason we know there is fire is because we see smoke. So while it's true Christ provides reasons to reject the Jews claim He keeps them in doubt, He does so by providing a causal connection between reprobation and unbelief. However, what such an objection would miss is that following Christ is a "condition of" not a "condition for" salvation. We do not earn or cause our salvation by following Christ - that would be works salvation. Christ makes this distinction in verse 9 between entering the door and going in and out for pasture in verse 9:
I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
Likewise, when Christ speaks of hearing Christ's voice and leading and not following strangers in John 10:3-5, He's talking about Christian walk. Christians do these things, but they don't become Christians by doing them.
So the idea is not that being sheep causes faith, but rather we can know they are unbelievers because they are not following Christ, since believers follow Christ.
One final argument that Calvinist bring up is based on John 10:16 "other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd." Calvinists argue that the other sheep are elect Gentiles who God will convert at a later time. Frankly there's little to go on here. Mormons claim they are the other sheep. People tend to find their pet theology in ambiguous statements. To me, it's far more likely that Christ is talking about others who were saved under the Old Testament system but hadn't yet heard about Christ because they were geographically remote. But I won't be dogmatic about that, because Christ doesn't get into the details.
Friday, May 31, 2013
Matthew 11:21-23 - why were the People of Sodom Lost?
Steve recently asked: "I've been thinking about Matthew 11:21-23 as a non-Calvinist. If God knew the people in Tyre and Sidon (or other places) would repent under certain circumstances, why did not God bring about those circumstances? E.g. do the mighty works there."
The passage states: 21 “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. 22 But I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the day of judgment than for you. 23 And you, Capernaum, who are exalted to heaven, will be brought down to Hades; for if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.
More generally, God gives everyone sufficient grace for salvation but that doesn't mean He gives all people the same amount of grace. Consider Arminius' claim that God doesn't use all means possible to save: The form of vocation is placed in the very administration of the word and of the Holy Spirit. God hath instituted this administration so, as He knows to be suitable and becoming to himself, and to his justice tempered with mercy in Christ; always reserving to himself the full and free power of not employing, for the conversion of men, all the methods which are possible to himself according to the treasures of his wisdom and power, and of bestowing unequal grace on those who are [in every respect,] equals, and equal grace on those who are unequal, nay, of employing greater grace on those who are more wicked. (Romans 9:21-26; 10:17-21; 11:25, 29-33; Ezekiel 3:6; Matthew 11:21, 23) (Public Disputation 16.7)
The passage states: 21 “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. 22 But I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the day of judgment than for you. 23 And you, Capernaum, who are exalted to heaven, will be brought down to Hades; for if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.
Christ is rebuking Bethsaida and Chorazin for their stubborn unrepentance in light of His mighty works and witness among them. So the question amounts to, why did the Father send Christ to the Jews knowing the people of Sodom would have repented had Christ been sent there? One of my professors once said he thought God sent Christ when He did because the Roman roads and Koine Greek helped quickly spread the gospel. I don't know; if He waited until now, it could have been posted on youtube. In any event, the point is we shouldn't just look at Capernaum vs. Sodom but rather Christ's whole ministry vs. what it would have been like at an earlier time. And while we will not know the full reason in this life, we can trust God's reasons were good.
More generally, God gives everyone sufficient grace for salvation but that doesn't mean He gives all people the same amount of grace. Consider Arminius' claim that God doesn't use all means possible to save: The form of vocation is placed in the very administration of the word and of the Holy Spirit. God hath instituted this administration so, as He knows to be suitable and becoming to himself, and to his justice tempered with mercy in Christ; always reserving to himself the full and free power of not employing, for the conversion of men, all the methods which are possible to himself according to the treasures of his wisdom and power, and of bestowing unequal grace on those who are [in every respect,] equals, and equal grace on those who are unequal, nay, of employing greater grace on those who are more wicked. (Romans 9:21-26; 10:17-21; 11:25, 29-33; Ezekiel 3:6; Matthew 11:21, 23) (Public Disputation 16.7)
Consider also, God sometimes lets the horrendously wicked live long lives and end up repenting, while the less wicked die young and unrepentant. Some unbelievers live all their lives in Churches while others are born in Muslim or other countries with little to no access to the Gospel). Despite what some might have you believe, Arminians don't believe God is a Care Bear sitting on a cloud in the sky. Grace is not a given - it truly is amazing.
Some try to avoid the force of this verse by saying Christ was exaggerating. They say it's not that the people of Sodom really would have repented; Christ is just saying how bad the people of Capernaum were. Unfortunately, some folks who I respect a lot, William Lane Craig and Max Andrews (link), take this approach, and it just so happens to support their theory of trans-world damnation. I disagree because unintentional exaggerations seems like careless mistakes and intentional exaggeration seems like lies. Neither seem worthy of our Lord to me. No, the rebuke only works if the charge is true: the people of Sodom would have repented and the people of Capernaum did not.
Other Molinists like Thomas Flint hold to unconditionally elects or something like it. (see Flint. Divine Providence. Especially Chapter 5, the section on the Principle of Predilection starting on page 117) Max Andrews seems to think any Molinist that takes Matthew 11 at face value ends up stuck with this view. But there's a huge difference between God wanting to save everyone but still choosing when and where to send Christ while knowing who would and wouldn't be saved and God choosing not to save everyone. If the Father had sent Christ to Sodom, it's true they would have repented; but probably others would have been lost. If unconditional election is true, God could have elected both the people of Sodom and the people of Capernaum and simply didn't want to save them.
God still loved the people of Sodom and He wanted them to repent and enabled them to do so. They rejected and resisted His grace. That's why they are lost. So one can agree with all four of Max's points and still take Matthew 11 at face value.
Max says: "( 1) God genuinely desires that all men come to repentance and be saved (Ez. 33.10-11, 1 Tim. 2.3-4; 2 Pt. 3.9), 2) God judges based on revelation (Rom. 1-2), 3) God determines the time and place of man so they may seek God (Acts 17.26-28), and 4) that humans are damned because of their sin)"
Sure God loved and wanted to save the people of Sodom as He loves and wants to save all men. Lack of love is not why the Father sent Christ when and where He did. Sure God judges the people of Sodom based on revelation and He set the time and place for them to seek the Lord. He gave them sufficient grace and revelation for salvation. They chose to reject Him and the grace and revelation He gave them and that's why they are damned. They are not damned because God didn't love them, want to save them, send His Son to die for them, reveal Himself to them, provide sufficient grace for them or the like.
God still loved the people of Sodom and He wanted them to repent and enabled them to do so. They rejected and resisted His grace. That's why they are lost. So one can agree with all four of Max's points and still take Matthew 11 at face value.
Max says: "( 1) God genuinely desires that all men come to repentance and be saved (Ez. 33.10-11, 1 Tim. 2.3-4; 2 Pt. 3.9), 2) God judges based on revelation (Rom. 1-2), 3) God determines the time and place of man so they may seek God (Acts 17.26-28), and 4) that humans are damned because of their sin)"
Sure God loved and wanted to save the people of Sodom as He loves and wants to save all men. Lack of love is not why the Father sent Christ when and where He did. Sure God judges the people of Sodom based on revelation and He set the time and place for them to seek the Lord. He gave them sufficient grace and revelation for salvation. They chose to reject Him and the grace and revelation He gave them and that's why they are damned. They are not damned because God didn't love them, want to save them, send His Son to die for them, reveal Himself to them, provide sufficient grace for them or the like.
Tuesday, May 28, 2013
Misrepresenting Calvinism
I was recently told that I was misrepresenting Calvinism when I said they interpret Romans 9 to mean God hated Esau before he was born or did anything evil. However, this is exactly what Calvin said:
11. We come now to the reprobate, to whom the Apostle at the same time refers (Rom. 9:13). For as Jacob, who as yet had merited nothing by good works, is assumed into favor; so Esau, while as yet unpolluted by any crime, is hated. If we turn our view to works, we do injustice to the Apostle, as if he had failed to see the very thing which is clear to us. Moreover, there is complete proof of his not having seen it, since he expressly insists that when as yet they had done neither good nor evil, the one was elected, the other rejected, in order to prove that the foundation of divine predestination is not in works. Then after starting the objection, Is God unjust? instead of employing what would have been the surest and plainest defense of his justice—viz. that God had recompensed Esau according to his wickedness, he is contented with a different solution—viz. that the reprobate are expressly raised up, in order that the glory of God may thereby be displayed. At last, he concludes that God has mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth (Rom. 9:18). You see how he refers both to the mere pleasure of God. Therefore, if we cannot assign any reason for his bestowing mercy on his people, but just that it so pleases him, neither can we have any reason for his reprobating others but his will. When God is said to visit in mercy or harden whom he will, men are reminded that they are not to seek for any cause beyond his will. (Calvin's Institutes 3.23.11)
Further, it's taught in contemporary Calvinism as well:
Now this charge of misrepresentation is not limited to "internet Calvinists". Take for example, James White's accusing Norm Geisler of misrepresentation:
11. We come now to the reprobate, to whom the Apostle at the same time refers (Rom. 9:13). For as Jacob, who as yet had merited nothing by good works, is assumed into favor; so Esau, while as yet unpolluted by any crime, is hated. If we turn our view to works, we do injustice to the Apostle, as if he had failed to see the very thing which is clear to us. Moreover, there is complete proof of his not having seen it, since he expressly insists that when as yet they had done neither good nor evil, the one was elected, the other rejected, in order to prove that the foundation of divine predestination is not in works. Then after starting the objection, Is God unjust? instead of employing what would have been the surest and plainest defense of his justice—viz. that God had recompensed Esau according to his wickedness, he is contented with a different solution—viz. that the reprobate are expressly raised up, in order that the glory of God may thereby be displayed. At last, he concludes that God has mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth (Rom. 9:18). You see how he refers both to the mere pleasure of God. Therefore, if we cannot assign any reason for his bestowing mercy on his people, but just that it so pleases him, neither can we have any reason for his reprobating others but his will. When God is said to visit in mercy or harden whom he will, men are reminded that they are not to seek for any cause beyond his will. (Calvin's Institutes 3.23.11)
Further, it's taught in contemporary Calvinism as well:
God’s passing some by was not conditioned by their
unbelief. God did not foresee which ones
by their own will would not accept Christ, and on that basis reject them. Just as election is unconditional (God did
not choose anybody because he foresaw that they would believe in Jesus), so
also is preterition unconditional. It is
no more based on God’s foreknowledge of what an independent human being would
do with Jesus than is election. As the
reason for election is found in God alone – and never in man – so also is the
reason for preterition found in God alone and not in man.
The only reason given for the election of Jacob and the passing
by of Esau is: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated” (Romans 9:13). The reason was in God and not in the
foreknowledge of the good or bad that either one would do. Edwin H. Palmer. Five
Points of Calvinism, The: A Study Guide. Baker Books, Apr 1, 2010 page 129
Now this charge of misrepresentation is not limited to "internet Calvinists". Take for example, James White's accusing Norm Geisler of misrepresentation:
James White: On page 83 [of Geisler's Chosen but Free] an endnote appears that challenges Piper on the issue of the rejection of Esau. It is a classic example of out-of-context citation that should not appear in a work by a scholar of the rank of Norman Geisler. Here is what it says:
Geisler Quoted by White: John Piper, widely held by extreme Calvinists to have the best treatment on Romans 9, makes this mistake. Piper claims that “the divine decision to ‘hate’ Esau was made ‘before they were born or had done anything good or evil (9:11).’ But, as shown on the previous page, the reference here is not to something said in Genesis about the individuals Jacob and Esau before they were born.
James White: One might thing that this is being taken from the section of Piper’s work specifically on the topic of Jacob and Esau. It is not. Instead, this short snippet is a partial sentence from a summary of a completely different topic, as we will show by providing the full (and useful) quotation:
James White Quoting John Piper: In sum then I have tried to demonstrate with three arguments that the phrase, “whom He wills he hardens”, describes God’s freedom to choose the recipients of his hardening apart from any ground in their willing or acting. First, the parallel between 18a and 18b shows that the freedom of God to harden is parallel to his freedom to show mercy, which according to 9:16 has no ground in a person’s willing or running. Second, the correspondence between the pairs, mercy/hardening (9:18) and love/hate (9:13), shows that Paul does not intend for us to view the hardening as a “divine reaction” to sin, since the divine decision to “hate” Esau was made ‘before they were born or had done anything good or evil (9:11).’ Third, Paul’s selection and adaption of Ex 9:16, which summarizes the theme of Ex 4-14, shows that he understands God’s activity to be grounded in his own purposes, not in the plans or actions of men.
James White: Does CBF attempt to respond to the actual argumentation Piper provides regarding 9:13? No. Does it attempt to respond to even this summary of Piper’s argument which, if true, is utterly devastating to Geisler’s entire thesis? No. Unfortunately, Piper is misrepresented yet again within just a few pages…(James White. The Potter's Freedom: A Defense of the Reformation and the Rebuttal of Norman Geisler's Chosen But Free. (2nd edition) Calvary Chapel Press. 2007. page 218)
James White claims Geisler misrepresented Piper and took him out of context, but Geisler quotes Piper accurately and conveys his idea correctly. One searches in vain to find the out of context quotation.
My guess is that Calvinist simply do not like it when non-Calvinists point out God's treatment of the non-elect and it's easier to cry misrepresentation than face the distasteful parts of Calvinism.
Geisler Quoted by White: John Piper, widely held by extreme Calvinists to have the best treatment on Romans 9, makes this mistake. Piper claims that “the divine decision to ‘hate’ Esau was made ‘before they were born or had done anything good or evil (9:11).’ But, as shown on the previous page, the reference here is not to something said in Genesis about the individuals Jacob and Esau before they were born.
James White: One might thing that this is being taken from the section of Piper’s work specifically on the topic of Jacob and Esau. It is not. Instead, this short snippet is a partial sentence from a summary of a completely different topic, as we will show by providing the full (and useful) quotation:
James White Quoting John Piper: In sum then I have tried to demonstrate with three arguments that the phrase, “whom He wills he hardens”, describes God’s freedom to choose the recipients of his hardening apart from any ground in their willing or acting. First, the parallel between 18a and 18b shows that the freedom of God to harden is parallel to his freedom to show mercy, which according to 9:16 has no ground in a person’s willing or running. Second, the correspondence between the pairs, mercy/hardening (9:18) and love/hate (9:13), shows that Paul does not intend for us to view the hardening as a “divine reaction” to sin, since the divine decision to “hate” Esau was made ‘before they were born or had done anything good or evil (9:11).’ Third, Paul’s selection and adaption of Ex 9:16, which summarizes the theme of Ex 4-14, shows that he understands God’s activity to be grounded in his own purposes, not in the plans or actions of men.
James White: Does CBF attempt to respond to the actual argumentation Piper provides regarding 9:13? No. Does it attempt to respond to even this summary of Piper’s argument which, if true, is utterly devastating to Geisler’s entire thesis? No. Unfortunately, Piper is misrepresented yet again within just a few pages…(James White. The Potter's Freedom: A Defense of the Reformation and the Rebuttal of Norman Geisler's Chosen But Free. (2nd edition) Calvary Chapel Press. 2007. page 218)
James White claims Geisler misrepresented Piper and took him out of context, but Geisler quotes Piper accurately and conveys his idea correctly. One searches in vain to find the out of context quotation.
My guess is that Calvinist simply do not like it when non-Calvinists point out God's treatment of the non-elect and it's easier to cry misrepresentation than face the distasteful parts of Calvinism.
Friday, May 24, 2013
I pray the Pope will not meet Atheists there!
Pope Francis recently said: “The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the blood of Christ. All of us, not just Catholics. Everyone!” he declared. “‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone! And this blood makes us children of God of the first class! We are created children in the likeness of God and the blood of Christ has redeemed us all!”
“And we all have a duty to do good. And this commandment for everyone to do good, I think, is a beautiful path towards peace,” Francis continued. “If we, each doing our own part, if we do good to others, if we meet there, doing good, and we go slowly, gently, little by little, we will make that culture of encounter. We need that so much.”
“We must meet one another doing good,” the Pope asserted. “‘But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!’ But do good. We will meet one another there.” (link)
The Pope is of course equivocating two vital terms ("Sons of God" and "meeting there") to teach universalism or at least an extremely wide inclusivism. The Bible names us God's sons in at least two ways: 1) via creation and 2) via adoption (contrast Acts 17:28-30 with Romans 8:14). Likewise, the Pope's saying "meeting there" at one point means agreement about charitable works and at another point it means heaven. (In this posts' title, I am using there in a third way - I mean hell.) So by a play on words, conservative Catholics can take the Pope's words to mean Christ died for everyone, God created everyone and we can work along side atheists for good and liberal Catholics can take the Pope's words to teach all paths lead to heaven.
“And we all have a duty to do good. And this commandment for everyone to do good, I think, is a beautiful path towards peace,” Francis continued. “If we, each doing our own part, if we do good to others, if we meet there, doing good, and we go slowly, gently, little by little, we will make that culture of encounter. We need that so much.”
“We must meet one another doing good,” the Pope asserted. “‘But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!’ But do good. We will meet one another there.” (link)
The Pope is of course equivocating two vital terms ("Sons of God" and "meeting there") to teach universalism or at least an extremely wide inclusivism. The Bible names us God's sons in at least two ways: 1) via creation and 2) via adoption (contrast Acts 17:28-30 with Romans 8:14). Likewise, the Pope's saying "meeting there" at one point means agreement about charitable works and at another point it means heaven. (In this posts' title, I am using there in a third way - I mean hell.) So by a play on words, conservative Catholics can take the Pope's words to mean Christ died for everyone, God created everyone and we can work along side atheists for good and liberal Catholics can take the Pope's words to teach all paths lead to heaven.
For James White to link the Pope's comments here with Arminianism is basically to teach it's OK to take Arminianism out of context. (link)
Monday, May 20, 2013
Discussion of Texts used to support Unconditional Election
Last night I discussed unconditional election
with a few friendly Calvinists. For the
most part, they picked the texts we discussed in their making a case for unconditional
election (i.e. we didn’t discuss 1 Timothy 2:4-6 or the like).
While rehashing the whole discussion isn’t
possible I wanted to at least summarize the major points of disagreement on
each text we discussed at length.
Matthew 11:20-30
20 Then He
began to rebuke the cities in which most of His mighty works had been done,
because they did not repent:21 “Woe to
you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works which were done
in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in
sackcloth and ashes. 22 But I say
to you, it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the day of judgment
than for you. 23 And you, Capernaum, who are
exalted to heaven, will be brought
down to Hades; for if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in
Sodom, it would have remained until this day. 24 But I say
to you that it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of
judgment than for you.” 25 At that
time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and
earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and
prudent and have revealed them to babes. 26 Even so,
Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. 27 All
things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except
the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to
whom the Son wills to reveal Him. 28 Come to
Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you
rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I
am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My
yoke is easy and My burden is light.”
- On verses 21-23, I argued that given Christ’s work, the people of Tyre and Sidon really could have repented, so the grace given was sufficient to enable repentance. They disagreed arguing that Christ was exaggerating in verses 21 to 23.
- On verse 25, the Calvinists argued the Father’s hiding the Gospel explained why the Jews had been rejecting Christ (and John the Baptist) in the past. I disagreed, arguing that the hiding of the Gospel was a punishment for their past rejections and God was removing the light He previously gave them. More generally, Christ was repurposing His ministry away from the Jewish leadership that was rejecting Him and towards those struggling under the law (verse 28).
- On verse 26, we disagreed that “or so it seemed good in Your sight” refers to a condition for God’s choice (i.e. God choosing to do something because He saw something good about what He was choosing).
- On verse 28, I argued laboring and being heavy laden (i.e. struggling under the law) is a preparatory step to receiving the Gospel and those who do will not have the Gospel hidden from them. The Calvinists disagreed.
Acts 13:48
46 Then
Paul and Barnabas grew bold and said, “It was necessary that the word of God
should be spoken to you first; but since you reject it, and judge yourselves
unworthy of everlasting life, behold, we turn to the Gentiles. 47 For so the Lord has
commanded us:
‘I
have set you as a light to the Gentiles,
That you should be for salvation to the ends of the earth.’”
That you should be for salvation to the ends of the earth.’”
48 Now
when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the
Lord. And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.
- On verse 48, I argued that the appointing was God arranging the hearts of the people right there on the spot. They disagreed arguing that the appointing is related to predestination from eternity past.
- I argued that if appoint refers to predestination, then all elect persons were saved right then and there and anyone who didn’t believe on the spot never would because they are not among the predestined. They disagreed arguing there is an implied “as many as had been appointed to eternal life [for that time] believed.
- I argued that verse 46 parallels verse 48, and that’s evidence that the appointing happened on the spot rather than in eternity past. They disagreed.
Romans 8:28-30
28 And we
know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who
are the called according to His purpose. 29 For
whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed
to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover
whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also
justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.
- On verse 28, I argued that loving God is a condition for God’s promise that all things will work for your good. They disagreed, arguing that loving God is a condition of the people for who all things work out for good.
- On verse 29, they argued that foreknew means chose. I disagreed arguing it means foreknowledge and that foreknowledge is within the semantic range of the term.
- I argued that if foreknow means chose, then this passage and 1 Peter 1:2 have the redundancy of “whom He predestined, He predestined” or “chosen according to the choice of God”. They disagreed arguing that since in 1 Peter 1:2, proginōskō is in a noun form rather than a verb form, we shouldn’t draw a parallel between the two and Romans 8:29 is saying those whom God chose He predestined.
Romans 9 10 And not
only this, but when Rebecca also had conceived by one man, even by our
father Isaac 11 (for the children not yet
being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according
to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls), 12 it was
said to her, “The older shall serve the younger.”
- The Calvinists argued God’s election of Jacob was unconditional. I disagreed, arguing God chose Jacob because he was younger and didn’t have the natural birthright and to use Jacob/Esau as an object lesson that salvation is based on God’s grace rather than works or nationality.
- The Calvinist argued that grace must be unconditional. I argued that grace may be conditional, only it must be unmerited.
- I argued that faith does not merit salvation and even believers would end up in hell, were it not for God’s choice to have mercy on the believer. The Calvinists disagreed, saying faith merits salvation but it’s OK that it does, since God gives us faith.
Saturday, April 13, 2013
Some thoughts on Mental Illness and Regeneration
Rick Warren has been heavily criticized over his son’s
suicide. I agree that only jerks would
use this tragedy as a chance to attack the Warrens, but I would also like to
address the reasons why the complaints are invalid, not just rude. One specific complaint I would like to
address is the idea that since Christians are supposed to be different, how can
this happen in a Christian home?
When God regenerates a sinner, he does change their lives
resulting in great moral reform. So how
is it that a regenerate person can suffer from chronic mental illness? Science tells us that those with mental
disorders have differences in their brains:
Regeneration takes place in the person’s soul, not their
body or brain. Sure, Christ healed the
sick in the past and he could heal a person’s brain. But just as regeneration does not normally
result in removing physical blindness, so also it does not normally resolve
mental disorders. So when a person with
mental disorder dies, their disorder brain will remain in the grave while their
soul lives on.
To be sure, when God created Adam from the ground and
breathed life into him, Adam couldn’t have had a mental disorder. What God created was very good. Likewise, in the resurrection, none will have
mental disorders. But because of the
fall and until Christ makes all things new, mental illness exists.
Now I am sure that God has a stunning array of good reasons
for not healing all mental disorders, but I would like to explore one. The suffering mental disorders causes can be
a suffering for Christ. 1 Peter 2:20
says But when you do good and suffer, if you take it patiently, this is commendable
before God. Even if your struggle is with
your own mental illness, if you are fighting to live the Christian life and
suffering for it, God will reward you.
Friday, March 8, 2013
Prevenient Grace and Semi-Pelagianism
This post is a response to Scott
Christensen’s article “Prevenient Grace and Semi-Pelagianism”. (link) One of the main aspects of Mr.
Christensen’s article is calling Arminians Semi-Pelagian. Pelagius was a
heretic condemned by the early church for teaching man does not need God’s
grace to repent and believe. Semi-Pelagianism (a watered down form of Pelagianism
which might be characterized as God helps those who help themselves) was
likewise condemned by the early church. So calling someone Semi-Pelagian is
serious and unwelcome. It’s the mirror image of calling someone a
hyper-Calvinist. Both “Semi-Pelagian” and “hyper-Calvinist” are pejorative
terms. Worse real Semi-Pelagians and hyper-Calvinists exist, so one does not
want to get lumped in with those crowds. So this post will defend Arminianism
from the charge by defining Semi-Pelagianism, addressing arguments that Total
Depravity is undone by Prevenient Grace, that free will procures God’s grace,
that Libertarian Free will acts contrary to our Nature and that Prevenient
Grace is libertarian free will. Finally, I will attempt to show that Calvinism
is closer than Arminianism to Semi-Pelagianism.
Defining Semi-Pelagianism
Mr. Christensen defines Semi-Pelagianism
as synergism, which he explains as the idea that “free will triggers the grace
of God whether strictly in the initiation of the process or… in the continuing
invocation of further supplies of grace.” Mr. Christensen is aware Arminians
maintain the priority and necessity of God's grace from the very first moments
of our conversion, but since Arminians say man's response to God’s grace leads
to further grace, he sees them as Semi-Pelagian.
Mr. Christensen makes three
arguments defending his definition of Semi-Pelagianism. First, John Cassian
(among the best historical examples of Semi-Pelagianism) said sometimes God's
grace comes before faith. So the Arminian belief that God's grace comes first
is not enough to get around Semi-Pelagianism. But Arminians maintain the absolute
necessity of grace. Prevenient grace is not something God provides for
convenience or for really obstinate sinners. We need it. Without prevenient
grace, no one can believe.
Second, Mr. Christensen points
out that in some of Cassian's writing he said grace precedes faith. But here we
have to be careful by what Cassian means by grace.
Cassian said:
unless in all these there is a
declaration of the grace of God and the freedom of our will, because even of
his own motion a man can be led to the quest of virtue, but always stands in
need of the help of the Lord? For neither does anyone enjoy good health
whenever he will, nor is he at his own will and pleasure set free from disease
and sickness. But what good is it to have desired the blessing of health,
unless God, who grants us the enjoyments of life itself, grant also vigorous
and sound health? But that it may be still clearer that through the excellence
of nature which is granted by the goodness of the Creator, sometimes first
beginnings of a good will arise, which however cannot attain to the complete
performance of what is good unless it is guided by the Lord, the Apostle bears
witness and says: “For to will is present with me, but to perform what is good
I find not.” (See Works of John Cassian, Conference XIII,
Chapters 8-12)
By grace, Cassian means God
giving us an excellent nature and keeping us alive. This is not the type of
grace Arminians talk about when it comes to total depravity and resistible
grace. In Arminius’ words, grace illuminates our minds and inclines our wills.
Because our minds are blinded by Satan and our hearts love darkness rather than
light (2 Corinthians 4:4, John 3:19), prevenient grace overcomes problems in
our hearts and minds; it doesn't just keep us alive or give us opportunities to
hear the Gospel.
Third, Mr. Christensen points out
that Cassian was a synergist and so are Arminians.1 But this was not the aspect of Cassian’s
theology that got him condemned by the Second Council of Orange. Here’s an
analysis of James Arminius’ theology showing his full compliance with the
cannons of Orange. (link)
But the early church in general
didn’t embrace Augustine’s monergism over synergism. First, the cannons of
Orange are noticeably silent on election and determinism except
when it anathematizes the idea that some are foreordained to evil. Second, the Synod itself seems to
affirm synergism when it says “According to the catholic faith we also
believe that after grace has been received through baptism, all baptized
persons have the ability and responsibility, if they desire to labor
faithfully, to perform with the aid and cooperation of Christ what is of
essential importance in regard to the salvation of their soul.”(link)
Third, Celestinus, the bishop of Rome put space between the church and
Augustine’s monergism when he said: "but as we dare not despise, so
neither do we deem it necessary to defend the more profound and difficult parts
of the questions which occur in this controversy, and which have been treated
to a very great extent by those who opposed the heretics. Because we believe,
that whatever the writings according to the forementioned rules of the Apostolic
See have taught us, is amply sufficient for confessing the grace of God, from
whose work, credit and authority not a little must be subtracted or withdrawn"
(Quoted in Works of James Arminius Volume 1, Declaration of Sentiments -
Predestination. 1853 page 219).
In short, Mr. Christensen’s
anachronistic definition has Semi-Pelagians condemning Semi-Pelagianism at
Orange.
Total Depravity undone by Prevenient
Grace
For me, Mr. Christensen’s most
thought provoking point was that for some Arminians, prevenient grace undoes
total depravity, so no one's actually totally depraved. Arminianism allows a
number of explanations of how prevenient grace works, so probably some
Arminians will respond to this argument differently than others. But however
grace works, it’s a matter of grace, not depravity; so even if Mr. Christensen’s
point is accurate, that does not make Arminianism Semi-Pelagian. Also, I think most Arminians would agree that
the hardening of hearts is at least sometimes a case where a person actually
cannot please God or trust in Christ.
But some Arminians, like Arminius
and myself, see the second half of Romans 7 as the premier example of
prevenient grace. God uses the law to teach man about his sinfulness and need
for salvation. So prevenient grace shows man that he cannot obey rather than
enabling him to obey - at least in this case. Likewise, as Mr. Christensen
himself notes, many Arminians see prevenient grace working in iterative stages
(more on this below). So man may be unable to obey in some areas but able to
obey in others.
Calvinists themselves often hold
to a common grace that restrains man’s sinfulness. For example, Charles Hodge
argues based on Genesis 6:3, Acts 7:53, Romans
1:25-28 and Hebrews 6:4 that "the Influences of the
Spirit is granted to all Man." He goes on to list: virtue, fear of God,
religious experiences, conviction of truth, temporary faith based on the moral
evidence of the truth, and reformation of life as effects of the influence of
the Spirit on all men. (link)
In some of these cases, it’s hard to tell the difference between Calvinist
“common grace” from Arminian “prevenient grace”, unless we get into God’s
intentions behind His actions.
However, in fairness to Mr.
Christensen, I have seen Arminians push “ought implies can” farther than I
would. For example, Thomas Edwards takes passages like Romans 8:7 or 1
Corinthians 2:14 and explains them as we can’t obey while we put ourselves into
a certain evil frame of mind, but at other times we can obey. Similarly Edwards
takes passages like Ephesians 2:5 as applying only to the worst of godless
heathens rather than most people. (link) But I still would not call
Thomas Edwards a Semi-Pelagian, because he does not deny the priority and
necessity of grace. I cite him as an example of the type of Arminian that would
likely follow a different line of response to Mr. Christensen’s arguments.
Free will Provokes Grace
Mr. Christensen's core argument
against Arminianism is that man’s response to God’s grace “prompts”,
“provokes”, “procures”, and “invokes” additional grace. Procures is not the
right word – in no sense do Arminians believe we procure God’s grace. Likewise,
we do not prompt God, as if He needed a reminder or nudge to give grace.
Invokes is closer, but I wouldn’t
use that term without clarifying that we do not invoke God’s grace in the sense
I fear Mr. Christensen means. We could call for grace all the live long day and
not get any, were it not for God’s choice to give it – a choice He could omit
at His liberty.
Matthew 18:32 is a good example.
“I canceled all that debt of yours because you begged me to.” The
servant had not paid the debt nor was the king obligated to cancel the debt.
But the king did take the request into consideration. Contrast this with Romans
4:4 “Now when a man works, his wages are not credited to him as a gift, but
as an obligation”. In a similar way, additional prevenient grace is God’s
gift, not something we earn.
Although we do not earn or cause
God’s grace, it is true that God chooses to give grace to those who respond –
grace that He would not otherwise give. Here’s how Arminius explain the
difference between a gift and something earned: Christ says, "To him that hath
shall be given, and from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which
he hath." Not, indeed, because such is the worthiness and the excellence
of the use of any blessing conferred by God, either according to nature or to
grace, that God should be moved by its merits to confer greater benefits; but,
because such are the benignity and liberality of God, that, though these works
are unworthy, yet He rewards them with a larger blessing. (link)
And while I do think this answer
is sufficient, I do think Middle Knowledge provides helpful additional insights into this issue (link).
Libertarian Free will acts
contrary to our Nature
Mr. Christensen explores the
question of whether libertarian free will amounts to an uncaused effect. Behind
this discussion is his assumption that causes only operate deterministically
and there can be no agent causation or indeterministic causation. Thus he
concludes libertarian freedom amounts to acting contrary to our nature and
randomly. But didn’t God have libertarian freedom when He chose to create the
world or say elect Mr. Christensen? Very few Calvinists would openly deny God’s
libertarian freedom and say “God had to elect me”. Arguments that attempt to
prove libertarian free will is illogical contradict passages that ascribe
libertarian freedom to God (Genesis 1:1, Exodus 9:15).
What then is the connection
between who we are and what we do? Our desires arise in part from our nature
and they lead to but do not determine our choices. While we always
desire the things we choose, we don’t always choose things we desire. Put
another way, desiring something is necessary for choosing it, but not
sufficient for choosing it. When a
person desires two things, they can choose either. For example, Paul in
Philippians 1:23-24 talks about his having two competing desires and in Romans
7:15 he talks about not doing something he wants to do. So our nature and
desires act as a perimeter fence setting the boundaries of our freedom, but
they do not eliminate freedom altogether. We can still choose
between the options before us and between the various desires that we have.
Libertarian Free Will =
Prevenient Grace?
At times Mr. Christensen assumes
prevenient grace is synonymous with libertarian free will. But this confuses
the questions of “can we choose between alternatives” and “is trusting Christ
one of our alternatives”? A depraved
person can choose between sinful options or non-moral options, even if they
can't choose to trust and obey God. Granted, being able to choose to repent or
not is more interesting than the ability to choose between shoes; so prevenient grace that enable us to
repent is an important topic, but it’s not conceptually identical to
libertarian free will.
Mr. Christensen then asks if
unbelief is a gift.2 He reasons that if faith is a
gift due to prevenient grace, then unbelief is a gift, since prevenient grace also
enables unbelief. But prevenient grace does not enable unbelief. We have that
ability naturally - prevenient grace opens up good alternatives. By nature we
desire evil, by grace we have a competing desire for good. (Galatians 6:7-9)
Similarly, Mr. Christensen asks
if prevenient grace is even grace if it's resisted. He says "In fact,
it [prevenient grace] is non-existent for those who resist
it. Grace is only present and effective (i.e. successful for leading one to
salvation) for those who do not resist, but this is what Calvinists have said
all along." Minimally, prevenient grace existed in that it enabled the
person to obey, even if the person didn't in fact obey. Moving from unable to
able is a real change in the person. But likewise the drawing influence of
prevenient grace is real. The desire for good is real. Unless we resist, we
will be converted.
Probably, Mr. Christensen is just
faulting prevenient grace for not being irresistible grace. Arminianism is
wrong for not being Calvinism. But that's like saying a steak is bad for not
being chicken. I am sure Mr. Christensen prefers chicken, but that's not a
argument that something is wrong with steak.
Is Calvinism Semi-Pelagian?
Given Mr. Christensen’s
definition of Semi-Pelagianism, does Calvinism avoid the charge of Semi-Pelagianism?
I will argue that it does not and that Calvinism has serious problems with
affirming total depravity. Mr. Christensen states: "The freedom to
choose to love God and exercise saving faith is not a problem. Calvinists agree
with this in substance as long as freedom of choice is defined as acting
willingly or voluntarily in accordance with one's regenerated nature."
But this admits that on Calvinism, faith is our act – God does not believe for
us. And on Calvinism we are responsible for our actions. So on Calvinism, we
are responsible for our faith. So if Arminianism has a problem because man is
responsible for faith, so does Calvinism, but in other ways we can see that
Calvinism is worse.
On Calvinism, an unregenerate man
would believe if they wanted to.3 This sort of freedom (sometimes call compatibilist freedom; other times called natural
freedom does not require the man to be regenerated, nor is it dependent on
supernatural grace. Rather, man by nature has the
ability to act on his desires. So long as the man is not handicapped or
compelled, he is free in this sense and therefore responsible per the
Calvinist's own description of responsibility. So Calvinists end up with the
unwanted but unavoidable conclusion that unregenerate man is able to repent and
believe (in what they hold to be the morally relevant and common man’s sense of
ability) 4.
This conclusion is unwanted,
because Calvinists insist that one of the foundations of
their theology is the idea that unregenerate men cannot repent and believe. But
what we have is a conflict between Calvinists’ theology (total depravity) and their philosophy (compatibilism).
Compatibilism constrains
what Calvinists mean when they say man is unable to believe and whatever they
mean by it, they do not mean man cannot believe in what they consider to be the
common man’s notion of ability, nor in the sense of ability relevant to moral
responsibility.5
To insist that God’s giving man
good desires makes Him responsible for our faith, undermines the compatibilist idea that we are responsible
so long as we act on our desires. Sure unconditional election and irresistible
grace settle the big picture, but this settling operates above the level of
moral responsibility, per compatibilism. We still act on our desires
whether those desires come from our depraved nature or the new nature God gives
us in regeneration; so since we are acting on our desires we are responsible in
either case. So to claim God is alone responsible
undermines compatibilism.
Arminianism avoids the problems
that attaches to Calvinism, by embracing Total Depravity in a deeper and more persistent
way. When our Lord says "no man can come to me unless the Father who sense
me draw him" (John 6:44), we take that to mean that without grace, we do
not have libertarian freedom to believe. We understand Christ’s statement using
the common man’s notion of ability, a sense relevant for moral responsibility.
But on compatibilism, Christ is not denying compatibilist freedom, or man’s
ability to believe where ability is understood in the common man and morally
relevant sense. If Christ were denying compatibilist freedom, that would amount
to saying we are compelled to unbelief or mentally handicapped.
So on Calvinism, without God's
drawing man can believe (using the definition of ability they deem to be the
main one in discussing freedom, ability and moral responsibility. And on
Arminianism, without God's drawing man cannot believe (using our definition of
ability, which we deem the main one for
ability, responsibility and freedom). So which is Semi-Pelagian? Nevertheless,
this result exposes errors in Mr. Christensen’s way of defining Semi-Pelagian,
rather than identifying Calvinists as real Semi-Pelagians.
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1If synergism
means both God and man’s libertarian free will is involved in conversion, then
yes Arminians are synergists. But synergism is often uses in other contexts
such as justification by works or does man regenerate himself and Arminianism
is not synergistic in these senses.
2 Faith is a gift of God in some sense and like most gifts it can be
rejected, but for a discussion on Ephesians 2:8-9, see http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/reformed/godgift.htm
3For example, Turretin affirms that man has
"the essential freedom from coaction and physical necessity" and
"natural power or faculty of the will" and even grudgingly concedes
that in this sense an unregenerate man can be said to "be able to believe if
he wishes". (See sections 2 and 4 on page 669 and section 40 on page 682
of Volume I, Tenth Topic, Question 4 of Institutes of Elenctic Theology).;
4 Per Calvinism, moral responsibility attaches
to just compatibilist freedom (what Edwards calls moral freedom). For example,
John Frame says: “An alternative concept of freedom, one consistent with
Reformed theology and held by a number of philosophers (the Stoics, Spinoza,
Locke, Hume, Hobart, Richard Double et al) is often called “compatibilism,” for
on that basis, free will and determinism (the view that all events in creation
are caused) are compatible. …
Reformed theology recognizes that all people
have freedom in the compatibilist sense… I believe that compatibilist freedom
is the main kind of freedom necessary to moral responsibility”. (link)
5According to
Edwards, “But it must be observed concerning moral Inability, in each kind of
it, that the word Inability is used in a sense very diverse from its original
import. The word signifies only a natural Inability, in the proper use of it;
and is applied to such cases only wherein a present will or inclination to the
thing, with respect to which a person is said to be unable, is supposable. It
cannot be truly said, according to the ordinary use of language, that a
malicious man, let him be ever so
malicious, cannot hold his hand from striking, or that he is not able to show
his neighbor kindness; or that a drunkard, let his appetite be never so strong,
cannot keep the cup from his mouth. In the strictest propriety of speech, a man
has a thing in his power, if he has it in his choice, or at his election: and a
man cannot be truly said to be unable to do a thing, when he can do it if he
will. It is improperly said, that a person cannot perform those external
actions, which are dependent on the act of the Will, and which would be easily
performed, if the act of the Will were present”. (Edwards.
Freedom of the Will. I.4)
Tuesday, February 26, 2013
The Calvinism Justifies the Means?
A few months ago Calvinist blogs were buzzing about the Jason Stellman case (a PCA pastor who is now a Roman Catholic). Stellman never taught Catholicism while he was Presbyterian, but Calvinists criticized him for not saying he was thinking about Catholicism earlier. Blaine actually taught contrary to his churches doctrine, undercover, to kids, but he gets a pass (at least from Derek of Theoparadox). I wonder if other Calvinists are fine with Blaine’s approach.
http://arminianperspectives.wordpress.com/2013/02/22/sneaky-calvinism-calvinism-on-the-sly-in-action/
http://arminianperspectives.wordpress.com/2013/02/22/sneaky-calvinism-calvinism-on-the-sly-in-action/
Wednesday, January 30, 2013
Calvinism’s problems with Total Depravity
This post will be an attempt to add some detail to earlier comments about problems reconciling Calvinism and total depravity, using John Hendryx post as an example (here). To my knowledge, it’s a new argument against Calvinism. Most Arminians are quick to agree with Calvinists on total depravity to avoid being called semi-Pelagian. However, this in my opinion is a mistake, not because Arminians disagree with total depravity, but because Calvinists have some definitional and consistency problems with affirming total depravity.
Here's the basic argument:
Premise 1: Per Calvinists, total depravity is a problem with man’s desires, it is a moral and spiritual problem. However, the depraved person is not physically or mentally handicapped or under coercion. The depraved still choose, they just always choose wrong when it comes to faith in Christ and pleasing God.
Premise 2: Calvinists are compatible determinists. God’s decrees determines all things but we remain free in some sense. This freedom grounds moral responsibility and biblical statements of man’s abilities. This freedom is couched in man’s natural abilities. So long as we are not physically or mentally handicapped or under coercion, we are free. In this sense, Calvinists commonly say, if it’s true that you would brush your teeth if you wanted to, you are free and able to brush you’re teeth.
Conclusion 1: So the depraved man has the freedom to trust in Christ or please God (with freedom understood in the compabilist sense above). So per the compatiblist sense of freedom and ability, man is not totally depraved. (from P1 & P2)
This may not look bad yet, but if you have reached this conclusion, you’re going to end up with problems with the clarity of scripture, consistency, and even the authority of scripture.
For example:
Premise 3: The bible says man in a totally depraved state is unable to trust in Christ or please God (John 6:44, Romans 8:7, John 15:5)
Premise 4: The bible was written to the common man and it’s statements on abilities or inabilities are to be understood with common notions of abilities and inabilities. (Clarity of Scripture)
Here's the basic argument:
Premise 1: Per Calvinists, total depravity is a problem with man’s desires, it is a moral and spiritual problem. However, the depraved person is not physically or mentally handicapped or under coercion. The depraved still choose, they just always choose wrong when it comes to faith in Christ and pleasing God.
Premise 2: Calvinists are compatible determinists. God’s decrees determines all things but we remain free in some sense. This freedom grounds moral responsibility and biblical statements of man’s abilities. This freedom is couched in man’s natural abilities. So long as we are not physically or mentally handicapped or under coercion, we are free. In this sense, Calvinists commonly say, if it’s true that you would brush your teeth if you wanted to, you are free and able to brush you’re teeth.
Conclusion 1: So the depraved man has the freedom to trust in Christ or please God (with freedom understood in the compabilist sense above). So per the compatiblist sense of freedom and ability, man is not totally depraved. (from P1 & P2)
This may not look bad yet, but if you have reached this conclusion, you’re going to end up with problems with the clarity of scripture, consistency, and even the authority of scripture.
For example:
Premise 3: The bible says man in a totally depraved state is unable to trust in Christ or please God (John 6:44, Romans 8:7, John 15:5)
Premise 4: The bible was written to the common man and it’s statements on abilities or inabilities are to be understood with common notions of abilities and inabilities. (Clarity of Scripture)
Premise 5: Calvinists apologists claim the compatiblist sense of freedom is the ordinary, everyday common man sense of man’s freedom.
Conclusion 3: So the compatiblist sense of freedom’s denial of total depravity contradicts scripture. (C1, P3, P4, P5)
Premise 6: Calvinists deny man has free will with respect to trusting Christ or pleasing God.
Conclusion 4: Calvinism is inconsistent, asserting depraved man can and cannot trust Christ and please God.
Now let’s turn to John Hendryx’s post.
JH: First, I want to assure you that I believe man is required to respond in faith to the gospel. But that does not mean that the natural man has a free will to believe in Jesus. I think the issue here is about definitions. It is important to define what we are talking about up front. When you say man has a free will, what do you mean? Free from what? Free from sin? Also let me say that if you think Dr. John MacArthur is arguing for free will then, I believe, you may have profoundly misunderstood him. He actually affirms exactly the same thing all other Reformed thinkers do about this issue.
I agree defining free will is vital. I know you were not asking me but if it helps, by free will, I mean libertarian free will. But right now I am more interested in what does Calvinism mean by free will.
JH: With him, we affirm that all men make voluntary choices and no one is coercing anyone against their will to make a choice. We always chose what we desire the most.
This grants premise 2. So long as we are not coerced or handicapped, we are free and able to act.
JH: But that is not the issue of the free will debate...
Which free will debate? I understand the freewill vs. divine determinism debate is different than the Pelagian vs. Total Depravity debate. But it’s not like Calvinism can say one thing in the freewill vs. divine determinism debate and then contradict those statements in the Pelagian vs. Total Depravity debate.
JH: Problem is that the person without the Holy Spirit (the unregenerate) always desires that which is contrary to God. Nothing he does proceeds from a heart that loves God. The issue of free will (or not) is to ask this: left to themselves (as fallen human creatures who are in bondage to a corruption of nature), does anyone have a free will to believe in Jesus Christ?
This grants premise 1, so you’re stuck with conclusion 1.
Man’s problem is his evil desires. Now evil desires matter quite a bit in the Pelagian vs. Total Depravity debate, but they don’t matter in the freewill vs. divine determinism debate. It doesn’t matter that a person cannot desire good. What matters is that if they did desire good, they would do good.
JH: We all have a will, but we use it wrongly... we do not have the will to believe in Christ
The part before the comma implies we can trust and obey, the part after implies we cannot.
What’s the alternative? By “we use it wrongly”, you don’t mean inability? That denies total depravity, which you just affirmed. By “we have a will” you don’t mean ability? How then do you deal with passages saying we have abilities?
JH: The need for grace does away with free will altogether because if man's will was naturally free he would not need grace at all. He could come to Christ on his own.
The need for grace does not do away with compatiblist free will. So long as man is unforced and not handicapped,the is free and able to trust and obey. He can come to Christ.
Conclusion 3: So the compatiblist sense of freedom’s denial of total depravity contradicts scripture. (C1, P3, P4, P5)
Premise 6: Calvinists deny man has free will with respect to trusting Christ or pleasing God.
Conclusion 4: Calvinism is inconsistent, asserting depraved man can and cannot trust Christ and please God.
Now let’s turn to John Hendryx’s post.
JH: First, I want to assure you that I believe man is required to respond in faith to the gospel. But that does not mean that the natural man has a free will to believe in Jesus. I think the issue here is about definitions. It is important to define what we are talking about up front. When you say man has a free will, what do you mean? Free from what? Free from sin? Also let me say that if you think Dr. John MacArthur is arguing for free will then, I believe, you may have profoundly misunderstood him. He actually affirms exactly the same thing all other Reformed thinkers do about this issue.
I agree defining free will is vital. I know you were not asking me but if it helps, by free will, I mean libertarian free will. But right now I am more interested in what does Calvinism mean by free will.
JH: With him, we affirm that all men make voluntary choices and no one is coercing anyone against their will to make a choice. We always chose what we desire the most.
This grants premise 2. So long as we are not coerced or handicapped, we are free and able to act.
JH: But that is not the issue of the free will debate...
Which free will debate? I understand the freewill vs. divine determinism debate is different than the Pelagian vs. Total Depravity debate. But it’s not like Calvinism can say one thing in the freewill vs. divine determinism debate and then contradict those statements in the Pelagian vs. Total Depravity debate.
JH: Problem is that the person without the Holy Spirit (the unregenerate) always desires that which is contrary to God. Nothing he does proceeds from a heart that loves God. The issue of free will (or not) is to ask this: left to themselves (as fallen human creatures who are in bondage to a corruption of nature), does anyone have a free will to believe in Jesus Christ?
This grants premise 1, so you’re stuck with conclusion 1.
Man’s problem is his evil desires. Now evil desires matter quite a bit in the Pelagian vs. Total Depravity debate, but they don’t matter in the freewill vs. divine determinism debate. It doesn’t matter that a person cannot desire good. What matters is that if they did desire good, they would do good.
JH: We all have a will, but we use it wrongly... we do not have the will to believe in Christ
The part before the comma implies we can trust and obey, the part after implies we cannot.
What’s the alternative? By “we use it wrongly”, you don’t mean inability? That denies total depravity, which you just affirmed. By “we have a will” you don’t mean ability? How then do you deal with passages saying we have abilities?
JH: The need for grace does away with free will altogether because if man's will was naturally free he would not need grace at all. He could come to Christ on his own.
The need for grace does not do away with compatiblist free will. So long as man is unforced and not handicapped,the is free and able to trust and obey. He can come to Christ.
JH: But ask yourself, apart from the work of the Holy Spirit will anyone freely come to faith in Christ? If your answer is no, then you reject free will the same way I do.
My answer is no, but I I don't reject free will in the same way you do. I say we don't have libertarian free will to come to Christ, but surely you don't mean this? I reject our ability to come to Christ in the common sense notion of free will or ability.
My answer is no, but I I don't reject free will in the same way you do. I say we don't have libertarian free will to come to Christ, but surely you don't mean this? I reject our ability to come to Christ in the common sense notion of free will or ability.
JH: So to teach man has a free will in this sense, i.e. that the natural man has a free will overthrows the gospel ... it is precisely because man is in bondage that he needs Christ to set him free." (John 8:34, 36)
Which is why your philosophical notion of compatiblist freedom is so serious. Never-the-less, thankfully, Calvinists are inconsistent on this point, and end up affirming the gospel anyways.
JH: The discussion about free will has always historically been about the bondage of the will and affections.
Not always. The free will vs. divine determinism debate has a long and colorful history as well.
JH: And that which is in bondage is not free.
I agree, but what about a man is bound to sin? His desires or his body? If his desires alone, then per compatiblism, he is free.
JH: We are not talking about not being free to choose which toothpaste we are going to use tomorrow morning. We are talking about does a fallen person have the ability to make a good saving choice apart from the work of the Holy Spirit
In the compatiblist sense in which a depraved man can use Colgate or not, he can accept Christ or not.
JH: The Bible seems pretty clear on this.
I agree. I affirm depraved man is unable to trust and obey. I mean this in the common man's sense of the term inability, the sense Christ uses - depraved man does not have libertarian freedom with respect to trusting Christ and pleasing God.
Which is why your philosophical notion of compatiblist freedom is so serious. Never-the-less, thankfully, Calvinists are inconsistent on this point, and end up affirming the gospel anyways.
JH: The discussion about free will has always historically been about the bondage of the will and affections.
Not always. The free will vs. divine determinism debate has a long and colorful history as well.
JH: And that which is in bondage is not free.
I agree, but what about a man is bound to sin? His desires or his body? If his desires alone, then per compatiblism, he is free.
JH: We are not talking about not being free to choose which toothpaste we are going to use tomorrow morning. We are talking about does a fallen person have the ability to make a good saving choice apart from the work of the Holy Spirit
In the compatiblist sense in which a depraved man can use Colgate or not, he can accept Christ or not.
JH: The Bible seems pretty clear on this.
I agree. I affirm depraved man is unable to trust and obey. I mean this in the common man's sense of the term inability, the sense Christ uses - depraved man does not have libertarian freedom with respect to trusting Christ and pleasing God.
Monday, January 28, 2013
How in the World does World mean the Elect?
One of the clearest passages in scripture teaching Christ came to save each and every person is John 12:46-48:
I have come as a light into the world, that whoever believes in Me should not abide in darkness. And if anyone hears My words and does not believe, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world. He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him—the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day.
Notice a few things about world. First, Christ comes "into" the world. You go into a place, in this case Christ went into the planet earth. And who on earth will be judged one day? Each and every person who ever lived on earth. So who did Christ come to save? Every person who has ever lived on the earth, including those who rejected Him and will be judged on the last day. One of the key issues in the limited/unlimited atonement debate is God's intention, plan and design in sending Christ into the world and according to Christ, He came to save the world. This isn't some overly simple all means all folks- we have strong reason to believe in unlimited atonement.
Thursday, January 24, 2013
Resources on Middle Knowledge
Hopefully this blog is helpful on middle knowledge (middle knowledge tag) But here’s a bunch more resources.
Molina, Luis de, Alfred Freddoso
Molinism, Alfred Freddoso
A Molinist View of Election Or How to Be a Consistent Infralapsarian, by Ken Keatherly
Ducking Friendly Fire: Davison on the Grounding Objection, William Lane Craig
Middle Knowledge, Truth–Makers, and the "Grounding Objection", William Lane Craig
'Men Moved By The Holy Spirit Spoke From God' (2 Peter 1.21): A Middle Knowledge Perspective on Biblical Inspiration, William Lane Craig
"Lest Anyone Should Fall": A Middle Knowledge Perspective on Perseverance and Apostolic Warnings, William Lane Craig
Molina, Luis de, Alfred Freddoso
Molinism, Alfred Freddoso
A Molinist View of Election Or How to Be a Consistent Infralapsarian, by Ken Keatherly
Ducking Friendly Fire: Davison on the Grounding Objection, William Lane Craig
Middle Knowledge, Truth–Makers, and the "Grounding Objection", William Lane Craig
'Men Moved By The Holy Spirit Spoke From God' (2 Peter 1.21): A Middle Knowledge Perspective on Biblical Inspiration, William Lane Craig
"Lest Anyone Should Fall": A Middle Knowledge Perspective on Perseverance and Apostolic Warnings, William Lane Craig
Molinism and Romans 9, William Lane Craig
Grace, Actual and Habitual: A Dogmatic Treatise (especially chapter 3) , Joseph Pohle, Arthur Preuss
Natural Theology (especially book 2, chapter 4), by Bernard Boedder
A collection of tracts concerning predestination and providence, by John Plaifere, Christopher Potter, Laurence Womock, Thomas Goad, Louis Chéron
Sententias posts on Molinism, by Max Andrews
Public Disputation 4 on the Nature of God (especially 30 to 49), by James Arminius
Varieties of Accidental Necessity, by Thomas Flint
New Advent Entry on Molinism
Middle Knowledge entry on Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy, By John D. Laing
"They Shall Never Perish": Possible Worlds and the Problem of Eternal Security, by Shandon Guthrie
The Hubner/Feinberg-Guthrie/Fishel Debate:Calvinism vs. Arminianism pt. 2 - On the Doctrine of Unconditional Election
The Hubner/Feinberg-Guthrie/Fishel Debate:Calvinism vs. Arminianism pt. 1 - On the Doctrine of the Perseverance of the Saints
Offline Resources
On Divine Foreknowledge (Part IV of the Concordia) by Luis de Molina
Divine Omniscience and Human Freedom by William Lane Craig
The Only Wise God by William Lane Craig
Divine Foreknowledge: Four Views edited by James K. Beilby and Paul R. Eddy
Four Views on Divine Providence edited by Stanley N. Gundry and Dennis W. Jowers
Divine Providence: The Molinist Account by Thomas P. Flint
Salvation and Sovereignty: A Molinist Approach by Kenneth Keathley
Molinism: The Contemporary Debate by Ken Perszyk
'Was Arminius a Molinist?, Eef Dekker Is Molinism as Bad as Calvinism?, Jerry Walls
Grace, Actual and Habitual: A Dogmatic Treatise (especially chapter 3) , Joseph Pohle, Arthur Preuss
Natural Theology (especially book 2, chapter 4), by Bernard Boedder
A collection of tracts concerning predestination and providence, by John Plaifere, Christopher Potter, Laurence Womock, Thomas Goad, Louis Chéron
Sententias posts on Molinism, by Max Andrews
Public Disputation 4 on the Nature of God (especially 30 to 49), by James Arminius
Varieties of Accidental Necessity, by Thomas Flint
New Advent Entry on Molinism
Middle Knowledge entry on Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy, By John D. Laing
"They Shall Never Perish": Possible Worlds and the Problem of Eternal Security, by Shandon Guthrie
The Hubner/Feinberg-Guthrie/Fishel Debate:Calvinism vs. Arminianism pt. 2 - On the Doctrine of Unconditional Election
The Hubner/Feinberg-Guthrie/Fishel Debate:Calvinism vs. Arminianism pt. 1 - On the Doctrine of the Perseverance of the Saints
Offline Resources
On Divine Foreknowledge (Part IV of the Concordia) by Luis de Molina
Divine Omniscience and Human Freedom by William Lane Craig
The Only Wise God by William Lane Craig
Divine Foreknowledge: Four Views edited by James K. Beilby and Paul R. Eddy
Four Views on Divine Providence edited by Stanley N. Gundry and Dennis W. Jowers
Divine Providence: The Molinist Account by Thomas P. Flint
Salvation and Sovereignty: A Molinist Approach by Kenneth Keathley
Molinism: The Contemporary Debate by Ken Perszyk
'Was Arminius a Molinist?, Eef Dekker Is Molinism as Bad as Calvinism?, Jerry Walls
Monday, January 21, 2013
Depravity and Grace in Divorce
Many take Christ’s words in Matthew 19:11 as only talking
about the gift of celibacy – not marrying to focus on God. But Christ’s words have another aspect – if your
heart is hard, you will not accept God’s restrictions on divorce and sleeping
around. Here’s the passage in context.
Matthew 19:3 The Pharisees also came to Him, testing
Him, and saying to Him, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for just any
reason?” 4 And He answered and said to them, “Have you not
read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and
female,’ 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and
mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So
then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined
together, let not man separate.” 7 They said to Him, “Why then did Moses command to give
a certificate of divorce, and to put her away?” 8 He said to them, “Moses, because of the hardness
of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it
was not so. 9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for
sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever
marries her who is divorced commits adultery.”
10 His disciples said to Him, “If such is the case of
the man with his wife, it is better not to marry.” 11 But He said to them, “All cannot accept this
saying, but only those to whom it has been given: 12 For
there are eunuchs who were born thus from their mother’s womb, and
there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have
made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He who is able to accept it,
let him accept it.”
Look at the disciples comment. If we [can’t dump or wives for any reason or
sleep around], then it’s better not to marry.
For some, there may be good reasons not to marry, but God’s marriage
laws are not one of them. So growth
rates in divorce and sex outside of marriage are a sign of increased hardness of
hearts.
Moses permitted divorce because he had a nation of sinners
to run. Those with hard hearts cannot
accept God’s restrictions on divorce and adultery. But if God helps then (those to whom it has
been given), then they are able to accept it, and they should accept it (He who
is able to accept it, let him accept it).
So for those facing divorce, I think we have two cases:
those who can accept God’s marriage rules and those who can’t. So if we struggle with obeying God’s marriage
rules; we should thank God for His graciously enabling us to accept His rules
as our standard in the first place. God
has not abandoned us to the hardness of heart that rejects and cannot accept
His rules. Sometimes the spirit is
willing, but the flesh is week, so we must pray not to enter into temptation
(Matthew 26:41).
If on the other hand, we cannot accept God’s marriage rules,
we really should be asking why not? It
is true that God isn’t giving us the grace to be able to accept His marriage
rules, but why not? Sometimes we do not
have ears to hear, because we are unwilling to receive the message (Matthew
11:14-15). In other words, hardness of
heart about God’s marriage laws may betray some deeper stubbornness in our fundamental
relationship with God.
Now for those Calvinist who deny free will with respect to God's marriage rules - you have done well, but not gone far enough. You must also get rid of your philosophy which says, a man is able to do something, if he would do it were he to want to. So you're really saying "we can and cannot obey God's rules on divorce". On one side of this contraction you have the implication that man is physically and mentally handicapped when it comes to divorce. On the other, you have the implication that notwithstanding what Christ said, in the normal sense man can accept God's rules on divorce. Without this philosophical obstacle our need for God's grace shines clear.
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